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[November 21st, 2007] Gov. Ted Kulongoski ’s effort to get tough on illegal immigration strikes the Rogue desk as the equivalent of Hillary Clinton’s convoluted efforts to be on both sides of the question over whether iilegal immigrants should get driver’s licenses.
Last week, Kulongoski issued an executive order designed to stop people without Social Security cards from getting Oregon driver’s licenses. The target? Illegal immigrants. (And terrorists, of course!)
Oregon, Kulongoski’s office says, has become a “safe haven” for unqualified nonresidents seeking official U.S. identification cards. Until last Friday, Oregon was one of seven states that didn’t require a valid Social Security number at the DMV.
There are three problems with his order, which comes on the heels of immigration flare-ups in the 2008 presidential campaign.
First, he offers no proof that Oregon is a “safe haven” for license applicants who don’t live here. A state task force report in 2006 said the state was a magnet but appears to have dealt with the known cases of fraud. Sorry, Tío Teddy, remember the threat of WMD in Iraq? We’d like to see some evidence you’re solving a real problem—not just covering fellow Oregon Ds’ backsides heading into 2008.
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Second, the evidence suggests Kulongoski is creating a new problem. Discouraging adults from seeking licenses makes roads less safe, not more. Without licenses, drivers can’t get car insurance. But if their job depends on it, they may still get behind the wheel.
Third, Kulongoski is passing the buck. He says he supports giving driving privileges to undocumented immigrants. But his executive order makes it harder for the Legislature to take on that politically explosive task now that he’s dealt with the easy part of directing the DMV to make these changes.
“He is convinced this is a problem that we have to deal with,” says Kulongoski spokeswoman Patty Wentz. Our call? He’s earned deportation to Rogueland.
Me thinks WW has it's liberal ass in a sling. Super K trying to keep peace with the populist for dimmo sake and WW wailing over Illegals not allowed to faux legalize their standing.
How about deportation on all illegals trying to get a driver's license? A natural born sting operation.
I am always amazed how U.S. federal law prohibits Social Security numbers from being used for identification purposes by any government agency (local, state or federal) yet states continue to do so. This is why SSNs were removed from driver's licenses after law suits were filed by the government against the states. How does Oregon get around it? We claim it is to screen for parents delinquent on child support payments.
Then here was the news today from KATU.com: www.katu.com/news/local/11737826.ht...
A student born in Mexico uses a fake U.S. Social Security card to renew her driver license in Oregon. I'm not certain of her alien status but she definitely is committing a crime.
Oh yeah, I love the ending to the story. A college counselor stated that something should be done to help these people achieve their dreams. Dreams of committing crimes, that is.
If you want to move to and live in the United States, you obey and respect our laws.
the usual Angry White Men oh so worried that someone's gonna get a little somethin' they think might be theirs. Suck my free trade agreements, doods. (bet YOU don't obey all the laws)
The real problem is that the gov't has mixed up a) issuing IDs with b) a certification of driver competency - so we have to choose which function is more important when they conflict. I agree with Ted and come down on the side of a). Illegals want driver's licences as ID to make it easy to live in the US - it's the primary form of ID. Why should the gov't make that easy for illegals? As for road safety, illegals will drive with or without a licence. The connection between with/without licence and road safety is theoretical - for illegals. You can argue that without a licence, they will drive cautiously in order not to get caught.
The best way for Gov. Kulongowski to take the heat off himself for covering up Gov. Goldschmidt's rape of a 14 year old girl is to say somthing stupid that will get media attention.
"...say something supid..."
Didn't TeddyK just do that? I swear I saw his lips move!
You have got to be kidding WW.
The lengthy history of Oregon handing out driver's licenses to anyone could not be more common knowledge. The evidence has been extensive including eyewitnes DMV employees who are instructed to NOT verify legal residency.
For you to pretend there is no proof while demanding it makes you completely out to lunch. And way out of touch.
How is it that not one of you is aware of the huge numbers of Driver's Licenses given to illegals in Oregon?
That long term frenzy of giving illegal aliens (essentailly) fake ID, along with agencies including law enforsement prohibited from checking legal status, clearly makes Oregon a safe haven.
With so many of them here I am surprised you don't know and talk with them occassionaly.
No really are you just plain stupid.
You say,
"A state task force report in 2006 said the state was a magnet but appears to have dealt with the known cases of fraud"
You are dumb.
What makes you think the State being a "magnet" was dealt with? Nonsense.
It's a magnet and safe haven because
the DMV will give a legal ID to illegal people.
Then you trumpet the idiocy about fabricated evidence of a "new problem"?
That tired farse about denying illegals driver's licenses makes roads less safe is beyond assinine.
Never mind 43 states who don't hand out drivers licenses to illegals have just as safe as streets as Oregon.
But you spew the bullshit found in the Oregonian editorial about licenses for illegals somehow makes them get car insurance.
You dumbasses.
They still get behind the wheel with no insurance when they have a license.
How can you be so stupid as to think there's some magical insurance assurance if they are given a license?
One doesn't even need to own a car to
get a driver's license.
Liar Kulongoski has know for years Oregon had a severe problem handing out licenses to illegals.
Apparently you Rougue makers at the WW
are just plain moronic.
agreed
RIGHT ON!
A couple of months ago I was asked for a second piece of ID at the Airport in Phoenix. The ticket clerk indicated that so many liscences from Oregon where illegally obtained that they needed the second piece of ID.
Thanks Ted
Gov Ted hasn't gone loco, he and many in his fold have always been loco. Lest we forget, by handing out drivers licenses to illegals, under the Motor Voter Law, they can register to vote. How do you suppose most of them vote? Got free lunches, housing, medical, education at the expense of the legal citizens? The Demoncrats and the Republicrats are literally screwing the citizens of this country to death, Sleepy Ted just happens to be a major proponent of doing the screwing; he is but one of many. They take an oath of office to uphold the laws of this nation, then, intentionally do not.....they are liars and operating illegally themselves. No better than the common criminal. Vote the Dems and Repubs out of office.
I wish we had more illegals here and more meth.I had a hard time finding it
yesterday.