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Abrahm Lustgarten


Riding the rails to Tibet on the eve of the Beijing Olympics.

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IMAGE: Maggie Gardner
BY JAMES PITKIN | jpitkin at wweek dot com

[May 21st, 2008]

When the Olympic torch relay turned into a free-for-all between Tibetan protesters and pro-China demonstrators last month, Abrahm Lustgarten had a unique perspective on the conflict.

A writer who splits his time between New York and Eugene, Lustgarten spent four years traveling to China and Tibet researching the Qinghai-Tibet Railway—a 50-year plan to build the highest train line in the world and solidify Beijing’s hold on the disputed region.

When the first trains rumbled across the Tibetan plateau in 2006, Lustgarten was on board to chronicle the changes Chinese policies have brought. While Tibet’s spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, calls for greater autonomy from his exile home in India, Lustgarten documented the vast erosion of Tibet’s unique culture in the face of China’s march toward modernity.

Lustgarten, who recently took a job as a reporter for the new nonprofit investigative journalism group ProPublica in New York, told WW about Chinese hate mail, “Free Tibet” bumper stickers and why he’s torn over whether to boycott the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

His book, China’s Great Train: Beijing’s Drive West and the Campaign to Remake Tibet, was published in March by Times Books.

WW: Were you surprised by the numbers of pro-Chinese demonstrators during the Olympic torch relay?

Abrahm Lustgarten: I wasn’t. Chinese passion around the Olympics and China as a whole is totally underestimated, by Americans especially. I ran into small-scale expressions of that sentiment every single time the Tibetan issue came up with my Chinese sources.

Have you ever felt heat from that side?

I wrote an opinion piece for The Washington Post [“What they’re really fighting for in Tibet,” March 23, 2008], and they put my email address at the bottom. I got like a thousand emails, and 85 percent of them were in horrible English from Chinese nationals. They were the worst hate mail I have ever received from any story.

Is it right for the West to boycott the Olympics?

I’m undecided. The Olympics are massively symbolic to the very definition of what China is as a country right now. Any threat to that is taken as a sort of a mortal threat and a very deep personal offense. It’s an opportunity that Tibetans, if they want to further their cause, have to seize on. They may end up just abused and thrown in jail, but they sort of have to. But whether it’s appropriate for outsiders to take up Tibet’s cause is very, very complicated.















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What about all those “Free Tibet” bumper stickers?

I want to know from those people what they learned and who they learned it from. There’s this totally romanticized view of what Tibet is and what Tibetans are. It’s not to say that I don’t think the culture is amazing and worth saving. But there’s a real oversimplification.

Any trouble with the authorities while reporting in China?

I always expected problems, but I never had any direct confrontations. There were times when I was suspicious that people had been in my hotel room. Stuff displaced. I would stick things right in front of the door and it would be moved.

Did you become close with your sources?

My best Tibetan friend was the man I call “Kalden” in the book. There’s an episode at the end where he is really reflecting—kind of forced by me, maybe even inappropriately, to reflect a little bit on his situation. And there is this incredibly emotionally poignant moment, and he was just deeply uncomfortable. And I felt really bad for pushing him there.

How do you prove there’s cultural genocide in Tibet?

It’s in the number of new businesses and new jobs, and the scarcity of Tibetans in those jobs. It’s the widening gap between rich and poor. It’s the phasing out of Tibetan language from schools. It’s interviews with Tibetan friends about how they’re losing touch with their own culture. You can call it genocide or you can call it globalization; it’s a fine line at some point.

Is Tibet already lost?

That’s the question I get most often. I don’t think so. It’s very, very seriously threatened. The train is a bit of a turning point toward the negative and what’s happened in the two years since it opened. The Olympics, and the opportunity to bring attention to their political aspirations and their cause, is the next big turning point.

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curiouser  writes on May 22nd, 2008 10:50am

"But whether its appropriate for outsiders to take up Tibets cause is very, very complicated."

"I want to know from those people what they learned and who they learned it from. Theres this totally romanticized view of what Tibet is and what Tibetans are. Its not to say that I dont think the culture is amazing and worth saving. But theres a real oversimplification."

EXCUSE ME, but could you please be more specific?? I realize that this is 'only' a Q&A and so perhaps not meant to be an all-encompassing exposition of basic facts about Tibet, BUT the two statements above are frustrating in that without elaboration, they seem to be a type of faith-based opinion. Are we just supposed to take Mr. Lustgarten's word that things are "very, very complicated" and stop thinking about Tibet in that "totally romanticized and overly simplified" fashion.

Or are you just pimping the book?

 
Abrahm Lustgarten  writes on May 27th, 2008 8:52am

I'm the author and subject of this Q/A and just want to clarify in response to the first comment here, as well as the oh-so-brief quotation used in the Q/A.

First -- I say that whether and how foreigners should take on the cause of Tibet is complicated because there is a historical record of such foreign pressure making things worse, not neccessarily better inside Tibet because of the ways in which the Chinese government perceives and reacts to such efforts. Secondly, foreign efforts are sometimes based on understandings of Tibet that are sourced from the government in Exile, which can be dissociated from the needs of Tibetans inside Tibet in some ways, and foreign pro-Tibet activist groups. I am not saying that either of these groups, or foreign pressure on the issue of Tibet is wrong in any way, only that a more nuanced understanding of Chinese culture and how the the Chinese government receives and understands criticism on Tibet issue and elsewhere can lead to a more constructive and productive conversation.

Secondly, regarding "oversimplification" , etc... It is my experience that the idea of "Tibet" that many people I meet and talk with in the US have is quite different from the Tibet that I experience in geographic Tibet. The above quote is absolutely not meant to question whether Tibet is "worth saving", rather whether the "Tibet" that activists think they are saving is the one that actually exists. For example --( and the topic is far to complicated to go into in greater length here) Tibetans sought improved economy, some development, jobs, luxuries like cell phone and technologies, and more -- all things that they and others acknowledge come from a cultural and political connection to China. Often the foreign discourse assumes all of these influences are things Tibetans do not want, and that the ultimate goal is a complete disconnection from China, which is both not the case, and unrealistic.

 
curiouser  writes on May 27th, 2008 11:18am

Thanks, Mr. Lustgarten.

Cardano  writes on May 22nd, 2008 10:21pm

The Olympics are vaunted as the “Noble” Games and as such should be in a setting appropriate and commensurate with what they are supposed to stand for.

Just a quick glance at the very long list of the CCP cabal’s record of human rights abuses and the depravity and absurdity with which they try and paint the Dalai Lama as the perpetrator of the “riots” should give ample thought for reflection.

The incessant and obsessive howls of “Dalai Lama is a Liar and organized the riots” are yet another piece of proof that the riots were meticulously planned and executed by the CCP cabal to frame the Tibetans in attempt to weaken their cause in the run up to the Olympics.

Anyone attending the games will share the guilt and shame of the most barbaric regime to ever disgrace this planet.

A regime which never gives a thought to any humane, or even human notion of civilized behaviour. They constantly thumb it to all and sundry and apparently don’t feel any embarrassment at behaving in the most glaringly deplorable, puerile manner for all the world to see.

Get the true background on Tibet and the riots

A careful look at history

 
Cardano  writes on May 22nd, 2008 11:35pm

A careful look at history www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a2ory5hr4g

Get the true background on Tibet and the riots www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhjad2MJsT0

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