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INTERVIEW

Self-Reverential: The True Story of NEAL POLLACK

BY CARYN B. BROOKS
cbrooks@wweek.com

 


Neal Pollack
Powell's City of Books
1005 W Burnside St., 228-4651
7:30 pm Friday, Oct. 13
Free

Neal Pollack's personal site featuring some of his Chicago Reader pieces: www.nealpollack.com

Satire of the Neal Pollack site: www.neilpollock.com

McSweeney's website: www.mcsweeneys.net

Satire of the McSweeney's website: www.mcsweeneys.org

FoE site (chronic detailing of Friends of Eggers written in an obsessive but admirable way by a 17-year-old California man/boy named Gary Baum): www.aphrodigitaliac.com/mm


Do you know Neal Pollack? Maybe you do, maybe you don't; there are actually two of them. The first Neal Pollack is a 30-year-old Chicagoan who writes profiles of little but important people for the esteemed Chicago Reader. The second Neal Pollack is a creation of the first Neal Pollack and is America's Greatest Living Writer, the author of the recently released The Neal Pollack Anthology of American Literature. The book, a satire on the publishing world's giants of literature (think Norman Mailer, Ernest Hemingway and Tom Wolfe), recounts the Great Neal Pollack's adventures covering every important cultural event in American history since World War II and his particular way of writing about everyday people from a deeply egocentric perspective.

The collection of essays is an experiment of sorts. It's the first work published by McSweeney's, a literary journal and website masterminded by Dave Eggers (of Staggering Genius fame) that is eschewing the normal rituals of advertising and financial advances and is instead placing all profits in Pollack's lap. WW Arts & Culture editor Caryn B. Brooks spoke with Pollack about the challenges of satirizing one's own name, the satirization of satire, the realities of being in the McSweeney's posse and hijinks-packed readings.

Willamette Week: So am I going to be talking to you today as Neal Pollack, America's greatest living writer, or Neal Pollack, the writer for the Chicago Reader?

Neal Pollack: I spend almost all my time as myself. I'm trying not to turn myself into a caricature.

But you've done that already.

Oh. Well, I can always turn myself back. I don't plan to spend the rest of my life as the caricature, as the character. I have other writing that I want to do.

Do you think that in lampooning your name you may have poisoned the power of your name for other endeavors?

That's an interesting question. I guess I didn't spend a whole lot of time thinking about it, which may not have been the wisest thing to do. But I don't think so. I don't see why just because I'm parodying myself, I can't go back to practicing it in some way after this, after the smoke clears. I may never be able to cover Moscow for The New York Times--but I don't speak Russian anyway.

Describe a recent reading.

Let's see, on Monday night in Ann Arbor, my wife and I pulled into the parking lot of the delicatessen at like 5 o'clock, and there was some confusion there, because there was another reading at the delicatessen the same day. A woman from San Francisco who was promoting a book about gourmet cheese recipes. So people weren't really sure--some people thought that I was her or that that was the book, and they were a little confused.

Are you in character pretty much the whole time at your readings?

I just do whatever I feel like that day. I'm myself at the reading. I do a couple of lines like "I'm the greatest living American writer," but mostly I'm not this character. When I appear, I'm just me and we're just hanging out. I don't have the energy or the interest for playing the character--I'm not Father Guido Sarducci.

Much like Andre the Giant, you and Eggers are seen as having this literary posse, this very...

Did Andre the Giant have a literary posse?

No, he just had a posse. But my point is that there's a young man out there who keeps this website up that's completely dedicated to the antics of friends of Eggers. You've seen this...

I have.

Do you feel like you're in a clique? And do you feel like your clique is being dissed unfairly?

First, I am aware of the site. I think it's funny that he does it. I think he does a pretty good job, too. He gets some facts wrong. He'd be a lot better off if he just emailed or called people and asked them questions. I might be willing from time to time to answer...I don't know, maybe I wouldn't, I don't know.

I have some quick questions, first for "the greatest author" and then for you as the real Neal. Just take a shot at them. OK, Neal the Greatest: First love?

Wally Trumball. I talk about him in the book. He was my roommate at Exeter. He taught me what it meant to be a man and to love. And he was killed in 1947 in the Philippines. I still dream about him and see his visage hovering over my bed at least once a week.

OK, Real Neal--same question.

My first girlfriend in high school was an exchange student from Switzerland. She was really sexy and really, really smart. And we sat around and had a lot of pseudointellectual high-school conversations, like "Economics aren't real!," and then we'd go make out for like three hours. But she left me because she fell in love with an Afghan Freedom Fighter. Last I heard she was getting her PhD at the University of Bologna in philosophy.

OK, Neal the Greatest. Least favorite war?

Vietnam, for sure. Just because I covered wars. I was really just a tourist in the Spanish Civil War. World War II had something real and romantic, there was definite cause there. But Vietnam was completely pointless. Even though the drugs were good, it was really hard for me to see young men, the generation right behind mine, just getting plowed down. It was terrifying. In fact, that was the only war that I actually fought in. I would drop my notebook from time to time and just go berserk in the jungle and shoot whatever was moving.

OK, the Real Neal. Same question.

Well, I was in college during the Gulf War. And I protested against that, I just thought that was the most ludicrous spectacle. And you know George Bush just lied and lied every day, and it was just such an obvious display of bald, stupid self-interested jingoism. I think the Gulf War is sort of like the Spanish American War of the last century.

OK, last one. Neal the Greatest. Favorite line from a movie.

Well, I ghostwrote the screenplay for North by Northwest. So I would say pretty much anything spoken in that would be my favorite. I can't really pick because...it's a really good
screenplay.

How about the Real Neal?

OK, at the end of the old Hunchback of Notre Dame, Charles Laughton is standing up there on the parapet and he turns to the gargoyle and says: "Why am I not made of stone like thee?" I just love that. To me it's like the greatest moment in the history of movies. And then the camera just pulls back on Paris and that was it.

I think we all ask ourselves that once a day.

It's a good question! Out of the mouth of hunchbacks....


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