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INTERVIEW / REVIEW
Healing the Pain
Listen up! The jazz-funk rhythm riot of Magnets! gives the New School an Old School etiquette lesson.

BY BILL SMITH
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Magnets!
Reed College Student Union
Thursday, Oct. 26

"The idea for the band came during a gig I had with Rachel Z in New York," says Kim Clarke. "Rob [Scheps] used to come in and light the place up sitting in. Six months went by, and I called his machine and it said he'd moved to Portland, Oregon!"

In his annual tours, Ronnie Burrage drives a retinue of jazz-saxophone greats to manic heights. Sonny Rollins, Jackie McLean and Sonny Fortune have all been prodded by his elastic playing.

"To me, switching between jazz and funk was always just a natural thing, 'cause I grew up playing so many different types of music."

--Ronnie Burrage


In its recent gig before the all-ages Reedie masses, Magnets!, the East-meets-West funk-jazz alliance, stayed true to their scientific namesake as they batted kinetic energy back and forth like a steel-tipped badminton birdie.

As Portland saxophone perennial Rob Scheps did his best Roland Kirk, blowing soprano and tenor simultaneously, co-leader and electric-bass colossus Kim Clarke locked in with roller-coaster drummer Ronnie Burrage. Guest organist Joey Porter (standing in for George Mitchell) did his damnedest to keep up. This is no ordinary 4/4 funk collective. This is a made-in-heaven marriage of Funkadelic's groove and the slippery melody and intricate rhythms of Weather Report at its most aggressive.

At the music's core is the tag-team match of Clarke's lock-step bob and weave and Burrage's percussive barrage, a science-class experiment of combustible rhythm. Nineteen years ago, the two first teamed to stoke the fires of Joseph Bowie's funk ensemble Defunkt. That band--still occasionally together--was a bold and gritty take on '70s-style Parliamentary beats with the ragged glory of avant-jazz screech-for-the-sky soloing.

The rhythm pair went their separate ways, establishing reputations as first-tier jazz players, the choice of legends like Sonny Rollins and Joe Henderson. Yet they still love to work it out in the sweat lodge of funk, as they showed at the Reed gig. As the two discussed their heritage in parting the jazz-funk waters, WW listened in.

Ronnie Burrage: To me, switching between jazz and funk was always just a natural thing, 'cause I grew up playing so many different types of music. My first road tour I didn't even realize was happening. I was 9 years old with Duke Ellington.

Kim Clarke: No way! You were a little child prodigy!

RB: It was his revival orchestra with the choir, big band and a little-bitty drum set I played. But I had no clue! I remember him being this big, warm granddad. Later on in life I thought if I knew who he was and what was going on I'd really be bad!

KC: Yeah, if I hadn't gotten a grant to study with Ron Carter, I know for sure I wouldn't have played with all the jazz people I have.


RB:
But Kim's a natural musician too. You don't think too much about different so-called types of music--you just play, don't you?

KC: I'm just trying to play the best that the moment calls for. To flip back and forth between funk and jazz now isn't bad 'cause I've done the work, put the time in on the bandstand. I'd be with Defunkt on the road then get home to the Jazz Culture Theater [a now-closed Manhattan spot owned by jazz pianist Barry Harris]. There was a special spirit there--a lot of beautiful, older musicians sharing with others and just having a good time. No alcohol, just chicken and waffles and coffee and people who just loved playing tunes.

RB: That's how the shit's really learned. The younger guys coming up now--because they've done a couple of things, they think they know it all. That's a problem. They're not asking for the knowledge. Man, I used to hang out with the old guys all night long.

KC: Uh-huh. We're the last ones to touch Art Blakey's hand and talk with people like that. In New York now every young hot shot from Peoria comes with an axe to grind and wants to make an impression on everybody.

RB: That's what I mean. Before it wasn't like that. When you get to that level, if you don't have the humility, you don't have anything.


KC: See, what's happening with the music is we analyze it and put it through the grinder, but the bottom line is: Where did it come from? It was from stuff that came up out of the pain. Okay? If you haven't been through that kind of pain that jazz, blues and gospel are built on, you don't understand the sharing policy of letting everybody in. My mother's generation talks about the old bare buildings with the juke box run by the mob, cold wood floor, but still everybody dancing and having a good time. The reason for the music was to get past all of that stuff-- the pain.

RB: I feel good when we play in this band. Rob [Scheps] mentioned: "You look happy when we're playing, but sometimes when we're not..." I live to play, and other than seeing my children grow, it's my thing. The music is giving me my only true fulfillment, and it always has.

KC: Joe Henderson told me, the bandstand is the only time you get a chance to talk with God. You don't bring bullshit to the bandstand. Ninety percent of your life is gonna be lived off the bandstand. So you should cherish that as a sacred place and reach for something higher.

 

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