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INTERVIEW

Bill Kloster and Katie Radditz

BY KATIA DUNN
243-2122

Photo by Michael Parrish


Looking Glass Bookstore
318 SW Taylor St.,
227-4760

In the early 1970s, Looking Glass Bookstore in downtown Portland served as a center for Vietnam War protesters and organic gardeners. Today, it stays on the literary cutting edge thanks to Bill Kloster and Katie Radditz. Bill joined the staff in 1973. Katie came on board a year later. The couple decided to purchase the bookstore the same year.

Now, after 25 years of supporting the small press, hosting countless poetry readings and building a loyal community of customers, the couple has decided to sell.

As they prepare to pass Looking Glass Bookstore on to the next generation, Bill and Katie discuss how an independent bookstore weathers a war, a downtown mall and the consolidation of the publishing world.

 

Willamette Week: What was Looking Glass like when you started?

KATIE RADDITZ: It was, primarily, a political bookstore which was opposed to the Vietnam War. It was in the basement of the building which housed the U.S. Army's induction center. The original people from Looking Glass would go up and cause a ruckus; they were some kids from the University of Oregon. Before they had the bookstore, they went in and arrested their draft board. Well, actually, I'm not always sure about this story.

Was it primarily a retail outlet or a protest center?

BILL KLOSTER: It also sold a lot of wholesale books. We sold a lot of magazines and underground art. At that time, bookstores could only get mass-market books from a distributor. You would say, 'I need 50 mass-market books,' and they would make a selection for you. There was a whole new publishing world coming out of the '60s and early '70s. They were books that weren't acceptable for distribution, and these were the kind of books we sold. It was a center of hip culture.

What were some of the big changes in the store's history?

KATIE: One of the first big changes was the chains. B. Dalton and WaldenBooks came in the mid-'70s. When they opened there was this giant worry that, 'Oh, this is going to kill independent bookstores.' But what it actually did was put an end to the real conservative bookstores that came out of the '50s. It hurt J.K. Gill and [the book department of] Meier & Frank. It really put them out of business. Then there was even more of a desire for a store like ours, not just all the same corporate, cookie-cutter stores with the same inventory.

The other big change was when we had to move, when Pioneer Place came. All these businesses had to move. I think out of 42 stores, four survived.

Why did Looking Glass survive?

KATIE: Our landlords are half a block away, and they have their business in this half-block too. They wanted this half-block to be strong, and they knew us. They wanted us to be here with them. So they've been very fair-minded toward us. It's a really important part of us doing well here.

Five years ago, there were eight independent bookstores in the Portland downtown. How did you coexist?

BILL: Well, we all really got along very well and supported each other. If we didn't have a book, we'd call the other stores and see if they had it. When they left, it was like losing our community.

KATIE: We really lost our colleagues. We had a lot of camaraderie.

Why are independent stores suffering now? What happened to those other bookstores?

BILL: It's the rise of the corporate culture. It's the rise of Home Base. It's the rise of all these well-advertised, well-financed enterprises.

Given all that, why is Looking Glass thriving?

BILL: The main reason is, we're not presenting ourselves or marketing ourselves the same way that the corporate culture does. And I think we offer services that aren't available at the corporations. At our store, someone can walk in and want a book and we can just turn around and call the publisher while they're here. As soon as customers realized that, they would just come here to order their books.

What's changing in books today?

KATIE: Really, the biggest change that has been going on lately is with publishers. Especially with what they have to offer, how they present their books. It used to be, in catalogs, the first couple of books would be real strong literary-type books. And now what they present in the front are the books that are connected with the entertainment industry. There still are the great books in the catalog, they're just buried.

BILL: I would say half the publishing that is done now is in the hands of three companies. And all these companies are outside the United States. And these companies also own newspapers and TV networks and the whole entertainment gamut. And books are a very small part of the entertainment picture, but they're used as part of the promotion or advertising.

Are people more interested in preserving independent bookstores than they used to be? Has it become the politically correct way to purchase books?

BILL: I don't think it's a question of political correctness. I think a bookstore survives or fails not because people feel they should shop there, but because they want to.

What is it like being an independent bookstore in the same city as one of the biggest bookstores in the country?

BILL: Well, you know, Powell's is a huge bookstore. They probably sell 50 times or more the books that we sell. And I think Michael Powell has gone out of his way to support other independent bookstores. At the same time, given its size, it lacks a lot of the personal services and attention that an independent bookstore can provide.

KATIE: In some ways, it's been hard to know how to adjust, but really, we work together. I mean, we call each other often and exchange books. And if there's an author who's going to be in town at Powell's at night, often that author will come here during the day.

Why are you selling the bookstore?

KATIE: It's time to make a change. I've always wanted to teach, even though I always wanted to have the bookstore, too. So it's time to make that change. Also, it's gotten to a point where the bookstore is very stable. The bookstore is very strong right now.

BILL: We feel that we've really weathered the storm over the last five years. There was just so much uncertainty. But we feel now that that's behind us.

What are your hopes for the bookstore's future?

KATIE: We really hope to sell the bookstore to someone locally, to someone who understands that there is this huge need to be connected to the community and all the literary groups that are in that community.

Do you think you'll read a lot more or less when you leave?

BILL: I'll read five times more. I dream of reading more.

I think a lot of people would assume that you read every second.

BILL: It's ironic. We live in a time when books are readily available and affordable, but we just don't have time to read them. It's great too, though, because even given the glamorization of books--the Hollywood books, the advertising for books--still, really exceptional books are being published.

KATIE: One of the really great things about the bookstore is it's one of the last places where people can truly browse. You know, sometimes at clothing stores people feel like they have to buy something. Or any other kind of store, really. Here you can just come in and read.

BILL: We've had people who have come in here and put their bookmark in. I had one guy come up years ago and say, 'What happened to that book?' And I said, 'Well, I probably sold it.' And he looked up on the shelf and said, 'But I hadn't finished it!' We've also had people ask if they could spend the night in the store when it's time to close, so they can finish their book.

Does that bother you?

BILL: Not, not at all. We certainly didn't do it, but I think it's great.

 


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Willamette Week | originally published April 19, 2000

 


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