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INTERVIEW

Amy Glenn and Todd Fadel

BY ZACH DUNDAS
zdundas@wweek.com

Photo by Basil Childers


Meow Meow
527 SE Pine St.
230-2111

Todd Fadel and Amy Glenn say their landlord is a fan of all-ages music and gave them "a hell of a good deal" on their Southeast Pine Street digs.


BASIL CHILDERSEVERYONE IN ROCK AND ROLL CLAIMS TO BE DOING IT FOR THE KIDS. ALMOST EVERYONE IS LYING.

WHILE ROCKERS FROM THE UNDERGROUND UP TO TOTAL REQUEST LIVE PAY LIP SERVICE TO THE TEENAGED FLOWER OF FANDOM, PRECIOUS FEW BACK UP ALL THAT TALK. IT'S EASIER TO KICK BACK AND ENJOY THE DRINK TICKETS AND DELI TRAYS THAT ARE EVERY UPPER-ECHELON SCENESTER'S BIRTHRIGHT.

AMY GLENN AND TODD FADEL DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY. BOTH SAY MUSIC CHANGED THEIR LIVES BEFORE THEY WERE 21, WHEN THEY STARTED HANGING OUT AT THE X-RAY CAFE, THE LONG-DEFUNCT, LONG-LEGENDARY ALL-AGES CLUB ON EAST BURNSIDE STREET. NOW THESE TWO FRIENDS ARE MIDWIFING PORTLAND'S LATEST ALL-AGES HOPE, MEOW MEOW.

THE NEW ALL-AGES CLUB OPENS IN THE INNER SOUTHEAST DIGS ONCE OCCUPIED BY STAGE FOUR AND THE CHRISTIAN CLUB SPIN CYCLE WITH AN APRIL 28 SHOW BY INDIE DARLINGS PEDRO THE LION.


Willamette Week: How did all-ages shows affect you when you were younger?

TODD FADEL: A friend introduced me to fIREHOSE and Minor Threat, and that was where I got introduced to indie music. And about that time, Ben and Tres opened up the X-Ray, and I was able to go to quite a few shows down there. Everybody was allowed to just do what they did. No one was shooed away, because, y'know, 'They sound like AC/DC, so we can't have Dead Moon play.' There was none of that. I want to see Portland come back into a family thing like that again.

AMY GLENN: Growing up as a teenager, there was a plethora of all-ages venues. You could go check out anything, go see anyone for three, four, five bucks.

Some people say that all-ages clubs keep kids from getting into trouble. Did it work that way for you?

GLENN: It didn't keep me out of trouble, but at least instead of wanting to be a groupie, I realized, 'Oh, I can play music. I can totally have this creative integrity nurtured in me.' I think there's a whole generation of people behind us who need to be able to experience that tight musical community, where they can grow up and work out their dreams.

FADEL: We want to encourage as much as we can--performance art, visual art, anything. I think there's such a creative diversity in this town, it's a real shame that people aren't taking more advantage of that.

GLENN: I work with teenagers, teaching life skills, and there's so much pain that they want to let out and there's so much angst, that they're going to identify with anything that's going to throw that back out at them. If it's really loud, if it's pissing their parents off, then it's going to touch that need in them. They just need to have an outlet for something more positive.

FADEL: When something like this starts, more bands come out. And they are performing because you're around, because you make it worthwhile to be in a band. So in a way, I feel like just opening our doors is going to start something.

What's the reaction been to the news about your plans?

GLENN: It's been amazing how quickly things have come together. It's like people hadn't had a drink of water for a week. We got weird e-mails--"You guys are my muse, the people who are going to do the most wonderful thing for this earth." God, we're just opening an all-ages club in Portland.

Is there a larger Northwest music scene, beyond Portland, that you can tap?

FADEL: All you need is one person doing shows, and suddenly they're the venue for that town. Bands are just trying to get from Point A to Point B along I-5, so if you're doing shows, they're going to call you up.

What's Meow Meow's atmosphere going to be like?

GLENN: We're getting three pinball machines.

FADEL: I've got these candy catalogs.

GLENN: We're not having any alcohol on the premises at all. No beer garden, nothing. We're doing a total sugar bar. We figure if you don't have alcohol, you've got to have something.

FADEL: I looked into Slurpee machines today.

GLENN: God, I'll probably never leave that room. The thing is, kids are just dying for something to do. If idle hands are the devil's playthings--man. They're just so bored. If you had a space open where everyone sat around picking their nose, they would go. They just want to be with their friends and have a good time.

I've read a lot about how young people tend to be criminalized, to be viewed as an undifferentiated mass of Kid Rock or gangsta rap fans. Do you see this going on?

GLENN: Maybe I'm immature, but I look forward to spending time with them. I don't know what I would do without them. They keep me a real person.

FADEL: I never really grew up. I did grown-up things, but I never really grew up in my head. And so many things about Portland have started getting so serious and so dark.

How do you mean?

Without getting all moralistic about it, it's just that there was an innocence about things when I was younger that has turned into a certain nihilism. If we hated what our parents did to us, we should at least make something more fun, something daring, something silly.

GLENN: It's harder when you're an adult. We have bills to pay. Todd and his wife just had a baby, my daughter just turned 1 last week, so it's kind of a scary thing, but at the same time it's so exciting. We've had so much support from people, the excitement is so contagious. We've found ourselves just giggling sometimes. If it becomes like a serious task, then we're going to stop doing it.

 

 


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Willamette Week | originally published April 26, 2000

 


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